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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 03:21:09 AM »

I think this 'freedom of speech' should be very subjective. What is freedom of speech in certain countries may not be applicable in others.

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 04:51:20 AM »

I think this 'freedom of speech' should be very subjective. What is freedom of speech in certain countries may not be applicable in others.

ok, "freedom is speech" is very subjective for you; what is your interpretation of "freedom of speech" then?

let's take the following for reference

van Mill, David, "Freedom of Speech", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2002 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2002/entries/freedom-speech/>.

what are your opinions?
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2007, 05:31:50 AM »

Thanks for your recommendations. Yes, freedom of speech is part of a human right. As a human, we have the right to speak / voice our opinion. In countries which promote freedom of speech, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. For example in United States, people can voice their opinions 'live' on air. Newspapers carry their own messages to the readers without any 'gate-keeping' policies.

People can also go on protests and walk around with billboards / naked to display their causes...hence the website you proposed is coincidentally the 'freedom of speech' practiced by these countries. It is considered an integral concept these modern liberal democracies.

However, over here in Asia, our freedom of speech comes with responsibility. We can talk many things here and there but if they don't carry enough evidence to prove your cause, you can be sued for misrepresentation. The media here carries the social responsibility to report news which is 'pro-country' so as to protect the society from receiving deviant news without substantial proofs and evidence.

Hence, ‘freedom of speech’ is very much contextual. There are pro and cons to the extent of what 'freedom of speech' means to each country. But the degree of freedom varies greatly in different countries based on the country's beliefs and founding laws.

That's my point of view.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2007, 05:34:48 AM »

I think this 'freedom of speech' should be very subjective. What is freedom of speech in certain countries may not be applicable in others.

ok, "freedom is speech" is very subjective for you; what is your interpretation of "freedom of speech" then?

let's take the following for reference

van Mill, David, "Freedom of Speech", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2002 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2002/entries/freedom-speech/>.

what are your opinions?

so based on the conclusion
, What is your stand LIMWEECH, I am interested to know.
Or Maybe many others would also like to know your stand on things!
Or does your value and moral standing "sway" as situation permits?

 6. Conclusion
In a liberal society, we have found that the harm principle provides reasons for limiting free speech when doing so prevents direct harm to rights. This means that very few speech acts should be prohibited. The offense principle has a wider reach than the harm principle, but it still recommends a very limited intervention in the realm of free speech. All forms of speech that are found to be offensive but easily avoidable should go unpunished. This means that all forms of pornography and most forms of hate speech will escape punishment. If this argument is acceptable, it seems only logical that we should extend it to other forms of behavior. Public nudity, for example, causes offense to some people, but most of us find it at most a bit embarrassing, and it is avoided by a simple turn of the head. The same goes with nudity and coarse language on television. Neither the harm or the offense principles as outlined by Mill support criminalizing bigamy or drug use, nor the enforcement of seat belts, crash helmets and the like.

Some argue that speech can be limited for the sake of other liberal values, particularly the concern for democratic equality; the claim is not that speech should always lose out when it clashes with other fundamental principles that underpin modern liberal democracies, but that it should not be automatically privileged. To extend prohibitions on speech and other actions beyond this point requires an argument for a form of legal paternalism that suggests the state should decide what is acceptable for the safety and moral instruction of citizens, even if it means limiting actions that do not cause harm or unavoidable offense to others. It is up to the reader to decide which of these positions is the most persuasive. It has certainly been the practice of most societies, even liberal-democratic ones, to impose some paternalistic restrictions and to limit speech because it causes offense. As we have seen, even Mill seems to back away somewhat from the harm principle. Hence the freedom of expression supported by the harm principle as outlined in Chapter One of On Liberty and by Feinberg's offense principle is still a possibility rather than a reality. It is also up to the reader to decide if it is an appealing possibility.

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